{"id":834,"date":"2026-07-06T22:08:12","date_gmt":"2026-07-06T22:08:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cityrelocationnews.com\/?p=834"},"modified":"2026-07-06T22:08:12","modified_gmt":"2026-07-06T22:08:12","slug":"how-political-is-this-supreme-court","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cityrelocationnews.com\/?p=834","title":{"rendered":"How Political Is This Supreme Court?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>Last week, the Supreme Court wrapped up its term, issuing several major decisions that accomplished long-held conservative goals. The President was given the ability to fire the head of numerous independent agencies; the scope of the Voting Rights Act was diminished; states were given the power to ban trans women from sports; and the executive was given the power to deport hundreds of thousands of immigrants, as well as limit other immigrants\u2019 ability to apply for asylum. While many of these decisions were 6\u20133, along the typical ideological split, the Trump Administration did suffer losses in cases where some of the six Conservative members\u2014usually Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett\u2014voted with the liberals. These include a decision limiting the President\u2019s power to impose tariffs, and another that carved out an exception for the Federal Reserve by blocking Trump from ousting Fed governor Lisa Cook. (The Court also voted to preserve birthright citizenship, but only five Justices affirmed birthright citizenship as a Constitutional right.)<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/cityrelocationnews.com\/?p=832\">How Tourists Are Experiencing Trump\u2019s World Cup<\/a><\/p>\n<p>While the Supreme Court is now often characterized as hopelessly political, some legal commentators reject such a wholesale analysis of the Justices. One of them is Elie Honig, a CNN senior legal analyst, who recently wrote a column for <em>New York<\/em> magazine on this term. Honig calls the labelling of the Court as political \u201cone of the easiest taglines in our current public discourse,\u201d and says that while five of the Justices can easily be labelled political, four that often receive that criticism (Roberts, Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh, and Neil Gorsuch) are the only ones who \u201chave shown any ability to dispassionately assess the law and\u2014surprisingly often in cases with massive stakes\u2014to reach real-world outcomes that don\u2019t jibe with their own ideology.\u201d I recently spoke by phone with Honig. Our conversation, edited for length and clarity, is below.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><strong>How would you summarize this most recent Supreme Court term?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Trump lost some very big cases, and he won some big ones. But if I had to speak in overarching terms, the cases he lost are mostly one-offs, whereas the cases he won will give Donald Trump himself, but also the Presidency more broadly, more power moving forward. So if we look, for example, at two of his biggest, most high-profile losses\u2014tariffs and birthright citizenship\u2014both of those were major policy initiatives of Donald Trump himself. They were struck down by cross-ideological Supreme Court majorities. Well, both of those policies are now dead and gone, and really, there\u2019s no lasting impact on the executive power of the Presidency, other than you can\u2019t run totally wild with an executive order.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tariffs aren\u2019t totally dead and gone, but yes.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The tariffs from the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (<em>IEEPA<\/em>) are, but, right, there are other ways to do them. On the flip side, if we look at two of the biggest wins that the Administration and conservatives got this term, you\u2019ve got the redistricting case, which gutted the last remnants of the Voting Rights Act, and opened the door to dissolution of intentionally created majority-Black voting districts. This is going to permanently change the way that we redistrict and draw congressional lines, and move power to Republicans in a more systematic way. And then you have the President\u2019s ability to fire independent agency heads. That is a structural game changer, because now, the President has complete discretion to fire these quasi-independent agency members for any reason or no reason at all. Whereas before this, Congress had limited that, and said you can only fire them for cause. Well, the Supreme Court basically said, To heck with you, Congress, your little law here has no impact.<\/p>\n<p>Now, they carved out the Fed, and I\u2019ve seen that portrayed as Trump wins one and loses one. But that, to me, is not the most accurate read. The Fed decision does not at all preclude him from firing Lisa Cook. It simply says you have to show cause. And you have to go through some sort of process. You can\u2019t just fire her by tweet, essentially. So, the win is far, far broader and far more impactful than the loss.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why do you think some conservatives joined with the liberals and carved out the Fed as an exception?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To hear them tell it in their decisions, it\u2019s because the Fed has a different Constitutional structure. It was established directly by Congress. But I think the real reason, and this is in Kavanaugh\u2019s opinion, is just, as a policy matter, those conservatives and the liberals realize you just don\u2019t want the President messing with the Fed. It\u2019s too disruptive to the economy and to international markets. Kavanaugh essentially says this part out loud, but I think they just realized that if you allow the President to tweak the National Labor Relations Board, no big deal. But if you allow the President to go in and do what he wants with the Fed, now you\u2019re messing with commerce, now you\u2019re messing with international finance, and I think the Justices are wary of that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And possibly messing with Republican electoral outcomes. I do not want to say that this is the only reason that this happened\u2013<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>I don\u2019t know. Maybe. Perhaps. That\u2019s reading a bit into it, yeah.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019m just saying, when you say you\u2019re messing with markets, that stuff matters to politics. But anyway, you wrote this piece downplaying the idea that the four least conservative of the six conservative Justices were acting politically the way the other five Justices were, and you seemed dismissive of people who describe the Court as political. So how would you describe something like the Fed decision?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My argument is that the Court is neither entirely political nor that it is entirely apolitical. I think we have to be a little more nuanced in the way we go about this. First, how do we define political? I think, generally speaking, that criticism means this is a 6\u20133 conservative supermajority, and when push comes to shove on all the big things, they\u2019re just gonna go 6\u20133 for Trump. I think what we all basically mean when we say a Justice is being political is that they\u2019re starting from the bottom line. They\u2019re starting from the political or policy or real-world outcome, and then reverse-engineering the legal analysis, the math calculation, to give them the desired result. And I think what we mean when we say that Justices are being nonpolitical is they\u2019re just doing some faithful version of the math equation, and living with the result, whether it aligns with their ideology or not.<\/p>\n<p>Thomas and Alito, on all the major cases, somehow come to a result that\u2019s pro-Trump or pro-conservative. Not once in any major decision this whole term did they reach a decision that gave us a liberal outcome, or that harmed Trump, or that was against the Administration. And essentially, the exact opposite applies to the three liberal Justices. The only real exception is that they gave a split ruling on the transgender athletes case, where all three liberal Justices agreed with the conservatives that state laws banning transgender athletes comply with Title IX, but dissented on whether it complies with equal protection.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not saying that the other four are perfect paragons of judicial impartiality, and that ideology never factors in. I am saying that, on a substantial number of very high-stakes cases, we saw two or more of those four Justices reaching results that go against their conservative ideology, that yield nonconservative, anti-Trump, pro-liberal outcomes. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any way to ignore that. If all nine Justices just did what I accused the five political Justices of doing, the world would look very different right now. Like, this isn\u2019t just an academic argument. We would have more tariffs in place, and have a substantially narrowed version of birthright citizenship. We\u2019d have no allowance for mail-in ballots coming in after the date of the election. We\u2019d have National Guard on the streets in Chicago and perhaps elsewhere. We\u2019d have very limited access to mifepristone. So, it really does make a difference.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In your piece, you say those four are the only ones who\u2019ve shown \u201cany ability to dispassionately assess the law.\u201d And you used some of the cases that you just mentioned to me as examples. It seemed to me, when you described the Fed case, that the Justices in the majority were not dispassionately assessing the law. I thought that you were saying they were making a political decision, maybe a smart political decision, maybe a reasonable political decision, but a political decision.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My argument is not that Kavanaugh, Barrett, and Roberts never take politics into account. Kavanaugh does explicitly take policy into account in that Lisa Cook decision, which I think is an outlier. I\u2019m not saying Justice Kavanaugh is a perfect paragon of judicial neutrality. All nine Justices let policy considerations animate and drive them to differing degrees, and I think what was unusual about that is that Kavanaugh said it out loud. There are other cases, though, where Justice Kavanaugh clearly comes out in ways that are not conservative, right? And look, the liberal Justices, too, are often explicit about how a decision would yield terrible policy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019m definitely not arguing that the liberals are not political, too. Isn\u2019t it possible that someone like Justice Roberts is making political decisions, but he\u2019s just not the extreme conservative that Donald Trump or Clarence Thomas is? So he could be making his decisions based on his ideology, and, as one lawyer said to me when I was talking to him before this interview, his politics are those of the Reagan Justice Department in the nineteen-eighties, which was conservative and political but not exactly <em>MAGA<\/em>. And so he\u2019s making decisions based on that ideology, and that means he votes with Clarence Thomas most of the time, but not always. But that can still be political, right?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/cityrelocationnews.com\/?p=830\">David Wain\u2019s Wet Hot American Comedy<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Well, that\u2019s interesting. I\u2019m just trying to think about which example would work best here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019m sure John Roberts thinks tariffs are a stupid economic policy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know, but I guess here\u2019s what I would say. I have no doubt that John Roberts is animated by institutional concerns on top of everything else, right? John Roberts plainly does not want to go down as the Chief Justice under whom this Supreme Court became hopelessly divided, with the automatic 6\u20133, the automatic pro-conservative outcome. And he has gone out of his way to broker outcomes within the Court to wheel and deal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aren\u2019t you describing politics?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, listen, don\u2019t get me wrong, I am not saying Roberts, Barrett, and Kavanaugh are pure beings who never consider politics. But I think there\u2019s a difference between institutional politics and engineering policy-real-world outcomes, right? Institutional politics happens every day between and among all nine Justices, right? But look, if Roberts\u2019s goal was to undermine the wide perception that this is just a hopelessly, ideologically split 6\u20133 Court, I think he made progress in that. I think he\u2019s got several powerful exhibits he can point to. Now, whether his motivation was simply to calm the Court\u2019s critics, or to do something else, I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There is also the additional political issue of when you look at his decision helping to save Obamacare, or his compromise on the Dobbs abortion case, he seems like someone who\u2019s wheeling and dealing, yes, but also, I think, in a more cynical way, doing things that are almost always helpful to Republicans. Getting rid of Obamacare would have been bad for Republicans. The Dobbs decision was bad for Republicans. Allowing Trump to declare insane levels of tariffs would have been really bad for the economy and bad for Republicans. I think Trump getting control of the Fed would have been bad for Republicans.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>That\u2019s an interesting view, and I think the dividing line between what you and I are arguing is that there\u2019s a distinction, but an important one, between being political and being policy- or outcome-focussed, right? So, the way you\u2019re defining political is what\u2019s gonna be best for this party. What\u2019s gonna harm them least. I wasn\u2019t looking at it through that lens. I\u2019m looking at it through who is voting reflexively, automatically, and essentially one hundred per cent of the time for whatever real-world policy outcomes suit their preferences. And if you use that lens, I think the other four can actually point to cases and say, Well, look, here, here, here, and here, we came out in a way that yielded a result that was against the Administration. But I think you\u2019re sort of looking at it at a next level and saying, yes, but when they\u2019ve done that, that\u2019s been to help or save or rescue or protect the Republican Party, which may be fair, and may be valid.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What would be cases where you think Kavanaugh and Barrett voted against their preferences?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Barrett crossed over, so to speak, on the tariffs case, the National Guard case, the mail-in ballots case, and the mifepristone case.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why do we think these cases are necessarily against her political views?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>She\u2019s a staunch, longtime conservative.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Of course. But I can find conservatives who hate tariffs and think the Federal Reserve should be independent, right? Or who think that Trump is being stupid on mail-in ballots.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>All of those opinions are certainly against the position of either the Trump Administration, the R.N.C., or the Republican powers that be. And by the way, I would add, birthright, of course, to that as well, yeah.<\/p>\n<p><strong>That\u2019s the reason I brought up the nineteen-eighties Reagan Justice Department. That could be the type of conservatives they are.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It may well be.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What did you make of the birthright-citizenship decision? That seemed like the type of case that recently might have been 9\u20130 or 8\u20131 on the constitutional question, and instead it was 5\u20134. How does legal conventional wisdom, in this case among a lot of conservatives, shift like that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I had the same view of the birthright case, especially after listening to the oral argument. I thought it would be at least 7\u20132, maybe 8\u20131. I even thought there was an outside shot it would be unanimous, and then it ended up being 6\u20133, although there\u2019s even some dispute about the basis for Kavanaugh\u2019s ruling, and you can argue it was really 5\u20134, although he\u2019s not in a dissent anywhere. But your question is, like, if there\u2019s a shift on the Court, how does that happen? Like, what\u2019s that process? What does that look like? Justices, like any other public figures or political beings, sometimes see their ideologies and policy preferences evolve over time.<\/p>\n<p>If you had to take a broad view, I think Roberts has moved somewhat to the left of where he was when he was nominated back in 2005. You could probably say Barrett has slid to the left, just if you were evaluating their outcomes, right? It\u2019s silly, and it\u2019s over the top, and it\u2019s inflammatory, but there\u2019s a reason why so many conservatives and Trump supporters are so outraged at Amy Coney Barrett in particular. They feel betrayed. They don\u2019t have a right to feel like she owes them anything, especially given my view that, for the most part, she\u2019s trying to apply the law and live with whatever the result is.<\/p>\n<p>Justices wear robes, and they always try to act like they\u2019re above the fray and live in this bubble, but the reality is they\u2019re human beings, and they are definitely aware of what the world is saying about them. And they are sensitive to that, and at times can respond to that. I don\u2019t want to name names, but I\u2019ve had various times when I\u2019ve met Justices, not all of them, but some of the ones whom I\u2019ve met have made it quite clear, right away, that they are well aware of things that I\u2019ve written or said in the media. And as much as they will tell you and act like they are above that, I promise you they\u2019re not.\u00a0\u2666<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/cityrelocationnews.com\/?p=828\">The Summer When Everyone Wanted a Good, Good Night<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Isaac Chotiner interviews Elie Honig, a CNN senior legal analyst, about recent Supreme Court decisions and the ideological divide on the bench.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":833,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-834","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interesting"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>How Political Is This Supreme Court? - City Relocation News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/cityrelocationnews.com\/?p=834\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"How Political Is This Supreme Court? 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